Skip 0 of Bonus Ball

[ido]

Hi ,
a skip "0" of Bonus Ball 19 just happenned and I
suddenly realized that this happens too rarely
on UK Lotto.
The previous time the fenomenon had a place was
220 draws ago when the BB 38 of the Draw 1450
on Sat.14/11/2009 repeated on Draw 1451.

But.....when repeated it appeared together with
4 numbers from the decade 10-19

No importance if this may be some bug in the
"lotto result actuator" or simple ciclometric coincidence
(I myself do not believe in coincidences but kindly love
it since often are profitable)

So look at thiese two couples of draws:


Sat 14/11/2009 1450 1, 5, 9, 20, 23, 39 BB 38
Wed 18/11/2009 1451 1, 4, 12, 13, 18, 19 BB 38
.............
Sat 24/12/2011 1670 1, 15, 23, 32, 36, 43 BB 19
Wed 28/12/2011 1671 8, 11, 13, 17, 48, 49 BB 19

I think that we have now two fractions of about 20 draws
literaly linked-one which is the next 15(+5) draws and the
other is the block of past draws 1452-1471 and what a block
it is seen that the BB are odd/even almost at 50%/50% and
the main numbers as well are odd/even almost at 50%/50%
and all the odd and all the even digital endings are pesent by
an appearance of at least a pair.

That block of draws 1452-1471 is so stangely close tho the
theoretical expectations that it's more suspicious than else..

Sat 21/11/2009__1452 _9, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40_BB 35
Wed 25/11/2009__1453_3, 6, 11, 17, 23, 29_BB 44
Sat 28/11/2009__1454 _3, 4, 27, 30, 36, 47_BB 8
Wed 02/12/2009__1455_2, 19, 22, 25, 34, 47_BB 28
Sat 05/12/2009__1456 _8, 20, 36, 43, 45, 49_BB 12
Wed 09/12/2009__1457_5, 13, 31, 36, 40, 41_BB 6
Sat 12/12/2009__1458 _3, 13, 22, 23, 39, 45_BB 4
Wed 16/12/2009__1459_2, 20, 34, 35, 40, 44_BB 49
Sat 19/12/2009__1460 _1, 20, 28, 33, 40, 45_BB 35
Wed 23/12/2009__1461_15, 18, 26, 32, 36, 37_BB 22
-------------------------------------------------------------
Sat 26/12/2009__1462 _2, 8, 23, 25, 36, 42_BB 30
Wed 30/12/2009__1463_5, 14, 27, 29, 34, 35_BB 4
Sat 02/01/2010__1464 _26, 29, 30, 42, 43, 47_BB 18
Wed 06/01/2010__1465_4, 16, 18, 43, 45, 49_BB 23
Sat 09/01/2010__1466 _20, 24, 33, 34, 37, 48_BB 25
Wed 13/01/2010__1467_6, 8, 14, 16, 21, 43_BB 19
Sat 16/01/2010__1468 _4, 7, 10, 14, 27, 42_BB 25
Wed 20/01/2010__1469_2, 16, 17, 18, 27, 28_BB 43
Sat 23/01/2010__1470 _3, 7, 8, 16, 19, 30_BB 9
Wed 27/01/2010__1471_1, 4, 7, 11, 13, 27_BB 12

What I'm expecting now is a streem of repeats in the next
15-20 draws of formations from the above past draws.

It's obvious that all the trips ,quads,quints of main numbers
have current frecuence at least 1 but there may be some missing
combinations involving the Bonus Balls of the period 1452-1471 ,those
missing combinations should be important in the close future.
..................
Great thanks to Len who's posted his txt.files this time as
copyng this draw data saved me lot of writing since I don't
have history files with the last draw on the bottom

[ido]

(12-30-2011 03:10 AM)ido Wrote:  What I'm expecting now is a streem of repeats in the next
15-20 draws of formations from the above past draws.

It's obvious that all the trips ,quads,quints of main numbers
have current frecuence at least 1 but there may be some missing
combinations involving the Bonus Balls of the period 1452-1471 ,those
missing combinations should be important in the close future.

And here the list of all those missing triples with the
Bonus Balls of the draw block 1452-1471 ,I've included
all the triples with frequence 1 as well seen that any of
that triples was drawn many years ago.


Draw 1452

30-35-36_missing

09-32-35_611 draws ago
24-30-35_63 draws ago
24.32-35_230 draws ago
30-35-40_118 draws ago
35-36-40_611 draws ago


Draw 1453

06-17-44_missing
17-23-44_missing

03-23-44_315 draws ago
06-29-44_69 draws ago
11-29-44_653 draws ago


Draw 1454

04-08-27_missing
08-30-36_missing

03-04-08_865 draws ago
04-08-36_741 draws ago
08-27-30_525 draws ago
08-27-47_747 draws ago


Draw 1455

02-25-28_missing
22-28-34_missing

02-22-28_363 draws ago
19-22-28_690 draws ago
22-25-28_858 draws ago
22-28-47_690 draws ago


Draw 1456

08-12-45_missing
12-36-43_missing

08-12-36_899 draws ago
08-12-43_1532 draws ago
12-36-45_889 draws ago
12-36-49_676 draws ago
12-45-49_1096 draws ago


Draw 1457

06-13-41_missing

05-06-40_597 draws ago
06-36-40_1228 draws ago
06-40-41_918 draws ago


Draw 1458

03-04-39_missing
03-04-45_missing
04-13-39_missing
04-13-45_missing
04-22-45_missing

03-04-13_1611 draws ago
03-04-22_1544 draws ago
04-22-39_44 draws ago
04-23-39_18 draws ago
04-23-45_1164 draws ago


Draw 1459

20-34-49_missing
35-40-49_missing

02-34-49_693 draws ago
20-35-49_1344 draws ago
20-40-49_894 draws ago
34-35-49_693 draws ago
34-44-49_73 draws ago


Draw 1460

28-35-40_missing

01-20-35_1569 draws ago
01-33-35_477 draws ago
01-35-40_332 draws ago
20-28-35_1311 draws ago
28-33-35_467 draws ago
28-35-45_1459 draws ago
33-35-45_39 draws ago


Draw 1461

15-22-26_missing

15-18-22_1605 draws ago
18-22-36_1232 draws ago
22-26-32_1607 draws ago
22-32-36_1232 draws ago
22-36-37_1624 draws ago


Draw 1462

02-25-30_missing
02-30-42_missing
08-30-36_missing
30-36-42_missing

02-30-36_668 draws ago
08-23-30_266 draws ago
23-30-36_995 draws ago
25-30-42_897 draws ago


Draw 1463

04-05-14_missing
04-14-34_missing

04-05-34_793 draws ago
04-05-35_430 draws ago
04-14-29_386 draws ago
04-27-29_990 draws ago


Draw 1464

18-30-42_missing

18-29-42_703 draws ago
18-29-47_646 draws ago
18-42-43_98 draws ago
18-42-47_113 draws ago
18-43-47_507 draws ago


Draw 1465

04-18-23_missing

04-15-23_621 draws ago
04-23-45_1164 draws ago
04-23-49_1649 draws ago
16-18-23_110 draws ago
16-23-49_491 draws ago
18-23-45_1508 draws ago
23-43-45_1322 draws ago


Draw 1466

20-25-37_missing
24-25-33_missing
25-33-48_missing
25-34-37_missing
25-34-48_missing

20-24-25_1338 draws ago
20-25-34_1583 draws ago
20-25-48_631 draws ago
24-25-34_226 draws ago
24-25-37_22 draws ago


Draw 1467

08-19-21_missing
14-19-21_missing
16-19-43_missing
19-21-43_missing

14-16-19_546 draws ago
14-19-43_1172 draws ago


Draw 1468

04-07-25_missing
07-10-25_missing
07-25-42_missing

Trip frequence 1
none


Draw 1469

17-27-43_missing

02-18-43_973 draws ago
16-28-43_1503 draws ago
17-18-43_752 draws ago
18-27-43_1272 draws ago
18-28-43_1020 draws ago


Draw 1470

07-08-09_missing
07-09-16_missing
09-16-19_missing

03-09-16_864 draws ago
03-09-19_1534 draws ago
07-09-19_735 draws ago
08-16-19_367 draws ago
09-16-30_380 draws ago


Draw 1471

01-07-12_missing
01-12-27_missing
04-11-12_missing
11-12-27_missing

01-11-12_1039 draws ago
01-12-13_220 draws ago
07-12-27_21 draws ago
12-13-27_825 draws ago

It's quite an intersting pool of 47 missing triples and
87 trips wich have appeared ones only in the past,
some in the remote past....

Let start the fishing

[Frank]

(12-30-2011 03:10 AM)ido Wrote:  Hi ,
a skip "0" of Bonus Ball 19 just happenned and I
suddenly realized that this happens too rarely
on UK Lotto.
The previous time the fenomenon had a place was
220 draws ago when the BB 38 of the Draw 1450
on Sat.14/11/2009 repeated on Draw 1451.

Keeping it simple, Ido - on average you would expect a bonus ball to directly repeat (or repeat to any other skip) one in every 49 draws.

It is true that its been a long time since a bonus ball directly repeated, as you say it was four times overdue to happen.

However, overall in 1672 draws the one in 49 means that you would expect there to have been 1672/49 = 34 direct repeats. In fact there have been 37, so its not true to say that it happens too rarely. Being random you get clusters of short periods when it repeats and clusters of very long periods without repeats, but statistically the number of repeats is on target.

As for the other stuff, I won't argue with that as I haven't got the time to run trials. The missing triples will turn up eventually but predicting just when is another story.

[Len]

(12-30-2011 03:10 AM)ido Wrote:  Hi ,
a skip "0" of Bonus Ball 19 just happenned and I
suddenly realized that this happens too rarely
on UK Lotto.
The previous time the fenomenon had a place was
220 draws ago when the BB 38 of the Draw 1450
on Sat.14/11/2009 repeated on Draw 1451.

But.....when repeated it appeared together with
4 numbers from the decade 10-19

No importance if this may be some bug in the
"lotto result actuator" or simple ciclometric coincidence
(I myself do not believe in coincidences but kindly love
it since often are profitable)

So look at thiese two couples of draws:


Sat 14/11/2009 1450 1, 5, 9, 20, 23, 39 BB 38
Wed 18/11/2009 1451 1, 4, 12, 13, 18, 19 BB 38
.............
Sat 24/12/2011 1670 1, 15, 23, 32, 36, 43 BB 19
Wed 28/12/2011 1671 8, 11, 13, 17, 48, 49 BB 19

I think that we have now two fractions of about 20 draws
literaly linked-one which is the next 15(+5) draws and the
other is the block of past draws 1452-1471 and what a block
it is seen that the BB are odd/even almost at 50%/50% and
the main numbers as well are odd/even almost at 50%/50%
and all the odd and all the even digital endings are pesent by
an appearance of at least a pair.

That block of draws 1452-1471 is so stangely close tho the
theoretical expectations that it's more suspicious than else..

Sat 21/11/2009__1452 _9, 24, 30, 32, 36, 40_BB 35
Wed 25/11/2009__1453_3, 6, 11, 17, 23, 29_BB 44
Sat 28/11/2009__1454 _3, 4, 27, 30, 36, 47_BB 8
Wed 02/12/2009__1455_2, 19, 22, 25, 34, 47_BB 28
Sat 05/12/2009__1456 _8, 20, 36, 43, 45, 49_BB 12
Wed 09/12/2009__1457_5, 13, 31, 36, 40, 41_BB 6
Sat 12/12/2009__1458 _3, 13, 22, 23, 39, 45_BB 4
Wed 16/12/2009__1459_2, 20, 34, 35, 40, 44_BB 49
Sat 19/12/2009__1460 _1, 20, 28, 33, 40, 45_BB 35
Wed 23/12/2009__1461_15, 18, 26, 32, 36, 37_BB 22
-------------------------------------------------------------
Sat 26/12/2009__1462 _2, 8, 23, 25, 36, 42_BB 30
Wed 30/12/2009__1463_5, 14, 27, 29, 34, 35_BB 4
Sat 02/01/2010__1464 _26, 29, 30, 42, 43, 47_BB 18
Wed 06/01/2010__1465_4, 16, 18, 43, 45, 49_BB 23
Sat 09/01/2010__1466 _20, 24, 33, 34, 37, 48_BB 25
Wed 13/01/2010__1467_6, 8, 14, 16, 21, 43_BB 19
Sat 16/01/2010__1468 _4, 7, 10, 14, 27, 42_BB 25
Wed 20/01/2010__1469_2, 16, 17, 18, 27, 28_BB 43
Sat 23/01/2010__1470 _3, 7, 8, 16, 19, 30_BB 9
Wed 27/01/2010__1471_1, 4, 7, 11, 13, 27_BB 12

What I'm expecting now is a streem of repeats in the next
15-20 draws of formations from the above past draws.

It's obvious that all the trips ,quads,quints of main numbers
have current frecuence at least 1 but there may be some missing
combinations involving the Bonus Balls of the period 1452-1471 ,those
missing combinations should be important in the close future.
..................
Great thanks to Len who's posted his txt.files this time as
copyng this draw data saved me lot of writing since I don't
have history files with the last draw on the bottom

Hi ido
You got four numbers from your below draw.
Sat 02/01/2010__1464 _26, 29, 30, 42, 43, 47_BB 18

Lotto Result
Wed 04/01/2012_1673_9, 26, 28, 30, 42, 43_BB 2

[ido]

(01-05-2012 07:19 PM)Len Wrote:  Hi ido
You got four numbers from your below draw.
Sat 02/01/2010__1464 _26, 29, 30, 42, 43, 47_BB 18

Lotto Result
Wed 04/01/2012_1673_9, 26, 28, 30, 42, 43_BB 2

Hi Len ,indeed the quad 26,30,42,43 repeated from
main 1464 and (look at imm.attached) it's now when
the triple 26,30,42 had it's second appearance or this
triple was one "frequence 1" triple before last night's draw.

May be axcepted as a small confirmation of my expectations,
simply it was a repeat from main draw to main draw and I
did not that list following the logic that the missing
combinations should be more intersting.

The funny but actually tragicomic fact is that whole the
past block of draws 1452-1471 corrispond to 300 possible
quads of main numbers and playing those 300 quads (if
we cud be sure ) would bring the beauty of the
over 2400% of net proffit.

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(01-04-2012 10:22 PM)Frank Wrote:  Keeping it simple, Ido - on average you would expect a bonus ball to directly repeat (or repeat to any other skip) one in every 49 draws.

It is true that its been a long time since a bonus ball directly repeated, as you say it was four times overdue to happen.

However, overall in 1672 draws the one in 49 means that you would expect there to have been 1672/49 = 34 direct repeats. In fact there have been 37, so its not true to say that it happens too rarely. Being random you get clusters of short periods when it repeats and clusters of very long periods without repeats, but statistically the number of repeats is on target.

As for the other stuff, I won't argue with that as I haven't got the time to run trials. The missing triples will turn up eventually but predicting just when is another story.

Hi Frank ,what a show since we just cud see skip 0,0 of BB!

You as always are right ,I impulsively wrote what I felt because
I've started learning to analyse the UKL in the summer of 2009,
it was actually the very first skip 0 I got a withness,the astonishment
was indeed that i've had never a thouths about the Uk BB since
I have got a records of all skips 0 of BB and First Balls in 49's
Daily Lottery

But I immediately started a research for counting that Skips 0 of
UKLotto BB ,naturally as ever I again tended to distract ,i noticed thousands
of strange appearances
and stoped to control what about ...so managed to reach only back to
draws 1387-1390>>Bonus Balls 3,3,37,37 if not else it helped me not to
have an infarct last night on seing BB n.2 to repeat.

What I'm trying to say is thanks for the prompt statistic about the
fenomenon you gave.It's now only not clear to me if this span of 219
draws can be considered the Max Historic Overdue of BB for skip 0?

About my conviction that there will be a streem of repeats ,I am
convinced indeed.
Sorry that you have no lot of time recently ,this situation is far more interesting
than what aparently the BB skip 0 allows to suppose because it is actually
a simultaneous repeat after 220 draws of 2 different skips 0 :

1/of BB

2/of 2 groups of 21 pairs each corrisponding to a past draw in the 7 ball draw

The diabolic question is how many times the second fenomenon
happenned over the 1673 draws of UK Lotto?This should be the real " link"
I've started to think.

[Len]

Hi ido
Sat 16/01/2010__1468 _4, 7, 10, 14, 27, 42_BB 25

got three numbers
Sat 14/01/2012_1676_7, 10, 12, 15, 25, 42_BB 33

[ido]

(01-03-2012 11:51 PM)ido Wrote:  And here the list of all those missing triples with the
Bonus Balls of the draw block 1452-1471 ,I've included
all the triples with frequence 1 as well seen that any of
that triples was drawn many years ago.


Draw 1468

04-07-25_missing
07-10-25_missing-appeared on Draw 1676
07-25-42_missing-appeared on Draw 1676

Trip frequence 1
none


It's quite an intersting pool of 47 missing triples and
87 trips wich have appeared ones only in the past,
some in the remote past....

Let start the fishing

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(01-16-2012 08:28 PM)Len Wrote:  Hi ido
Sat 16/01/2010__1468 _4, 7, 10, 14, 27, 42_BB 25

got three numbers
Sat 14/01/2012_1676_7, 10, 12, 15, 25, 42_BB 33

Hi Len ,seems that i managed to give the right
interpretation of this drawing case as what after
is happening simply confirms my expectations.

Two of the missing trips from a pool of 47 missing trips
appeared together on Draw 1676.

Seen that these 47 missing trips for any past draw are formed
of the BB +2 main numbers than any of the 47 missing trips
corrisponds to 4 different missing quads...and what we just had
is the missing trips 7,10,25 & 7,25,42 and the missing quad
7,10,25,42 relative to the past draw 1468 had its first
appearance.
And all happens quite normaly speedy so there should
be more appearances from the "linked" past block of draws
in the next draws.