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Request for you
09-26-2009, 04:47 AM
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RE: Request for you
(09-25-2009 05:32 AM)ido Wrote:  
(09-24-2009 04:44 AM)649lotto player Wrote:  Hi Ido,

Up to now I didn't anything with pairs and my recommendation
for using most available distances 1 is simple a statistic view.

Hi 649lotto player,

this time my replay is late because I wanted to do the new post before.

About your simple statistic view it was clear to me from the begginning .
Sadly the statistic is famous to be the less precise one of the group of the precise sciences.

".....As soon as I'll have the time I will change my program and will
count the 48 distances availability in the past UK drawings.

The availability should fit to the total availability.
That means that the distance 1 also should be most available.

Therefore a pair of numbers with the distance 1 should
appear sooner at the next drawings than a pair of numbers
with a larger distance.

Because of this I think the chance to predict a pair of numbers
with the distance 1 is given more often, but clearly depends
of the prediction method......"

I confess to be a litle bit disoriented - you are mentioning the past
UK drawings -what we whith Mario (because Andreas not post any more??)
is related on the bookies Lottery 49's twice daily draw.It's me not to understand thath you are reffering to it too or what you mean is realy related to the UKNatonal Lottery?

Because:

"....At the moment I play with the skip strategy where I omit
the last 3 times 7 drawn numbers, which are mostly 18 numbers.

Then I use an optimised open wheel with 31 numbers with some lines
(12 or 24 or 36 or 48 lines) with the guarantee 3 if 5
(because one of the omitted 18 numbers will be drawn again)
and transpose it to 49 numbers.

With this method I should get the highest return with 3
right numbers.

But I still have to work out which of the past 18 drawn numbers
could be repeatet again, so that I don't omit it......"


1/if you realy play 31 numbers on 49's daily two draws ,this is a playstile
I'll never aprove,than I can give you for some time 12 numbers formations
for 4 right numbers,ones 5 ,never less than 3 and if you will like it ,I would
give to you the method description but there is an effort to do of you as it's based on the disgusting circonfernzial consecutivity

2/if you play National Lottery first visit this my new post:

http://www.lottopost.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=540

may happen to give you some new idea+ there is a process I checkked on
about 10-12 consecutive UK draws and the result were good - again 12 numbers ,there was fourfold ,one 5+1 but its possible to make solid conclusions only if examine the hole amount of cases and this means a time.
I wanted immediatly to write to Frank about it but was skared to be ridiculous and he makes the skip method which I don't comprend.
Today I read your firs post of presentation ,if you can write a program maybe you would be able to obtain all the method statistic and if I can have it maybe will have some idea about how to improve or how to do submethods.
The steps aren't to complicate ,there is an add/substractional fase +20/-20 in which the damn pair 49-1 is consecutive again but you won't be bodered if I do a table whith the numbers for transposition.
What I exactly wanted to bold is that for me playing 31 numbers is too drastyc way of investment.

Welcome
shoise
Hi Ido,

the statistical research I'm doing is independent of any
lottery drawing if the balls are mechanical mixed in a
drawing machine, because each drawing is totally
randomly and independent from each other. All
past drawings are independent from each other
and the next drawing is independent from all previous
drawings.

Instead of watching past drawings of any 649 lottery
we could generate our own random numbers
and use them as past drawn numbers and use them
for the next drawing prediction..
The result for the prediction will be the same in a long
time run.

If you think the drawing machine and its past results are
important for your prediction, you would also to have to
implement into your work the not shown test drawings of
the machine and this is not possible.

It doesn't matter which past drawings are used:
daily drawings, saturday drawings, wednesday drawings or
saturday plus wednesday drawings mixed.

Besause I'm not UK resident, I don't play the UK lotteries.
But my postings here will be for the wednesday and
saturday UK drawings if I will do any prediction, because the topic
here is UK lottery.

Is the 49's twice daily draw also done with mechanical drawing machines?
I think computer generated numbers cannot be real randomly.

The scientists are using very expensive machines to get real random
numbers. Their random numbers are generated e.g. by radioactive decay
of atoms.

By the way, mario is a better program code writer than I am, like
he showed in an other discussion group and he is able to write
programs in the quick C++ programming language.

I'm playing the german wednesday and saturday drawings and they
are compareable to the UK ones.


About the investment with 31 numbers:
A ticket in germany allows 12 plays.
I generated 4 sets of numbers with are optimised for 31 pool numbers:

12 lines
24lines
36 lines
48 lines

Depending on the money which I have available for playing, I use one of
the four wheels and transpose them into 49 numbers, from which then the
18 numbers of the last 3 drawings are omitted.

This are my optimised wheels with 31 pool numbers with lowest
redundancy and therefore with the best covering within the 13.983.816
lines. The (open) wheels are optimised for a 3 if 5 guarantee because
I expect that one of the 18 omitted numbers will be drawn again and I will
have mostly only 5 right numbers within my 31 choosen numbers:

12 lines
chance 42% to get 1x3 or more right if 5 numbers are within 31
5 7 9 10 21 25
1 3 16 17 24 27
1 8 14 15 23 30
2 12 17 19 20 25
3 4 6 10 12 28
7 11 15 20 26 29
9 13 18 22 23 24
4 8 11 16 22 31
5 11 18 19 28 30
2 14 22 26 27 28
6 13 20 27 30 31
12 14 21 24 29 31

24 lines
chance 74,2% to get 1x3 or more right if 5 numbers are within 31
3 4 13 14 20 28
1 5 9 12 26 30
5 6 8 18 27 31
6 9 11 15 17 29
7 17 22 23 26 27
10 18 23 24 29 30
12 15 22 24 25 31
1 2 3 8 17 24
1 4 11 21 23 31
1 7 14 15 18 19
1 13 16 25 27 29
2 4 5 19 22 29
2 6 12 14 16 23
2 7 9 10 13 31
2 11 18 20 25 26
2 15 21 27 28 30
3 10 11 12 19 27
4 8 10 15 16 26
5 7 11 16 24 28
5 10 14 17 21 25
6 13 19 21 24 26
7 8 12 20 21 29
8 9 19 23 25 28
16 17 19 20 30 31


36 lines
chance 90,9% to get 1x3 or more right if 5 numbers are within 31
2 4 6 17 24 25
2 9 10 16 29 30
6 11 13 18 22 30
5 6 15 16 27 31
1 2 7 15 19 22
3 12 16 20 22 24
5 8 17 22 26 29
11 16 19 23 25 26
3 13 14 15 25 29
1 3 6 9 21 26
4 15 20 26 28 30
4 9 14 22 23 31
1 8 12 25 30 31
10 21 22 25 27 28
3 7 17 23 27 30
2 3 8 11 28 31
2 12 14 18 26 27
6 7 12 23 28 29
4 7 8 13 16 21
5 7 9 18 20 25
1 14 16 17 18 28
8 10 15 18 23 24
7 10 13 24 26 31
1 4 11 20 27 29
6 8 10 14 19 20
9 11 12 15 17 21
2 5 13 20 21 23
3 4 5 10 18 19
18 19 20 21 29 31
9 12 13 17 19 27
1 5 13 23 24 28
8 9 19 24 27 28
5 14 19 21 24 30
4 5 10 11 12 14
1 10 11 17 20 31
7 11 14 21 24 29

48 lines
chance 95,9% to get 1x3 or more right if 5 numbers are within 31
chance 61,5% to get 3x3 or more right if 5 numbers are within 31
4 5 7 23 28 30
3 7 13 19 26 29
7 12 14 22 25 31
1 3 8 11 22 23
3 5 15 16 24 25
1 8 25 27 28 29
6 10 15 19 22 28
10 15 18 23 29 31
16 17 20 22 29 30
7 9 11 15 20 27
8 13 20 24 28 31
6 9 17 23 25 26
4 18 22 24 26 27
3 9 12 17 18 28
2 14 19 23 24 27
4 6 11 12 24 29
2 11 16 26 28 31
3 6 21 27 30 31
12 13 16 21 23 27
7 10 11 17 21 24
1 4 9 16 19 31
5 10 12 20 26 27
11 13 18 19 25 30
2 5 8 9 14 29
4 8 15 21 26 30
11 14 15 21 28 29
1 4 13 14 15 17
5 8 12 17 19 31
2 9 12 13 22 30
3 4 8 10 14 16
1 5 18 19 20 21
1 2 6 7 10 16
6 7 8 9 16 18
14 16 18 20 26 28
5 9 21 22 24 29
2 7 8 12 15 18
1 2 17 21 22 26
5 10 11 13 17 27
1 5 6 13 18 31
1 9 10 14 24 30
4 9 10 13 21 25
1 12 15 24 26 30
2 3 10 18 25 30
12 19 20 21 23 25
3 6 13 14 20 23
2 3 4 17 20 31
2 4 6 11 20 25
6 14 17 19 27 30

(I'm doing the optimising with Covermaster)

Because your posting sounds that this topic will be closed
and my answer doesn't fit here now for pairs prediction,
I will see where to answer later.

649lotto player
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