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RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-27-2009 01:05 AM
(07-27-2009 12:19 AM)ido Wrote: Hi,Frank,not too sure if i understand well your theory ,but it seem to me you'l have very interesting results if make 2 separate ,indipendent lists of eliminated even numbers& eliminated odd numbers- if do like this you'l notice periodicaly(and short intervals from period to period) near full cover - second me have often Pick's3 won is not bad......or punt separately the odds &the evens of the both :elimination list and bankers list.
Hi Ido, my theory is based on the statistic that a number from a past draw has roughly a 50:50 chance of apearing in the next draw to come. The problem is that there have been a lot of past draws. As it stands, therefore any number can appear in the next draw. However , by observing which draws repeat to other draws most consistently you find out those which temporarily at least are bucking the trend, and are repeating with 100% certainty. Thats why I'm looking at the last 14 draws and finding out which consecutive draws in the past repeated to them without missing any draws. So this is a trend, it won't go on forever but it might just do one more repeat - which is all we are interested in. See the attached image.
Between draws 1405 and 1417 there was an unbroken run of repeated numbers from draws 20 draws earlier, So in draw 1417, number 31 repeated from draw 1397 , in draw 1416 numbers 9 and 28 repeated from draw 1396 etc. In other words draws 1385 to 1397 consecutively had results which reappeared 20 draws later. This unbroken run only came to an end in the last draw 1418 where draw 1398 failed to repeat.
Unbroken runs of this length are very rare and I'm now dealing with broken runs of 14 draws with just a single break in them such as repeats from draws 961 draws ago ( skip=961) to the last 14 draws !
Having identified a skip value of interest, all I need to look at is what the result was (in this example ) 961 draws ago to get 6 possible balls for the next draw. There are other skip values of interest too giving more balls in the list.I look at a consensus for all the balls in the repeating group(s) to look for the most prolific (bankers list) and the absent balls (elimination list).
I don't want to complicate this method any more by messing about with odds and evens , I've been there and done all that with various systems over the years, so for the time being I'll stick to fine tuning this method, to see if I can get consistent results.
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RE: Number elimination - ido - 07-27-2009 01:25 AM
Hi,Frank,
understand,you are right to stick with your initial idea - the separate punt is tecnical advice -in the Draw 1418 is HotPick4 from 9 even numbers of the "eliminationbancking" list...not bad!!!
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thinking seriosly ,you can do for any Drawlist(after the elimination) a small statistic controll for specific mont frequensy -it can give you more clearness too...
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-30-2009 02:18 AM
Elimination list for 1419
1 2 4 11 13 14 15 17 18 19 24 29 32 34 37 39 41 43 46 47
RE: Number elimination - mario - 07-30-2009 03:12 PM
Wonderful analyses!!
I think that unbroken consecutive runs with repeated numbers in separate draws will give you a group of numbers for elimination.
That chains of draws can't run more than 1,2 or 3 draws and show us 6 numbers for elimination.
Few years ago I found something like this. But it is about a combs of 6 numbers from all 13 900 000 which gave me a chain of succesive apparitions for 20-30 draws and that 6 numbers can be leaving out.
I will see how I can explain this.
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-30-2009 08:51 PM
(07-30-2009 02:18 AM)Frank Wrote: Elimination list for 1419Result.. 03,13,19,20,23,26.........01
1 2 4 11 13 14 15 17 18 19 24 29 32 34 37 39 41 43 46 47
So the bonus ball and 13,19 were in this list and shouldn't have been. A random list would have performed as well as this.
RE: Number elimination - mario - 07-31-2009 06:42 AM
For draw 1420:
38, 27 is my number elimination, very, very bad;
and 40, 14, 21, 34, 16, 30 are bad;
is my strategy with follow up and bad numbers;
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-31-2009 07:28 PM
(07-31-2009 06:42 AM)mario Wrote: For draw 1420:
38, 27 is my number elimination, very, very bad;
and 40, 14, 21, 34, 16, 30 are bad;
is my strategy with follow up and bad numbers;
for 1420 there were a lot of eliminated numbers in my system so I had to split them into 2 lists:-
Strongly Eliminated... 9 18 20 21 27 28 32 36 49
and Eliminated...1 3 4 5 6 13 14 16 17 22 24 25 26 29 35 39 40 41 43 45
I'm hoping that the first list has no hits in 1420 and ideally none of the ones in the second list either.
There are some similarities with Marios list.
RE: Number elimination - Len - 08-03-2009 11:02 PM
(07-31-2009 07:28 PM)Frank Wrote:(07-31-2009 06:42 AM)mario Wrote: For draw 1420:
38, 27 is my number elimination, very, very bad;
and 40, 14, 21, 34, 16, 30 are bad;
is my strategy with follow up and bad numbers;
for 1420 there were a lot of eliminated numbers in my system so I had to split them into 2 lists:-
Strongly Eliminated... 9 18 20 21 27 28 32 36 49
and Eliminated...1 3 4 5 6 13 14 16 17 22 24 25 26 29 35 39 40 41 43 45
I'm hoping that the first list has no hits in 1420 and ideally none of the ones in the second list either.
There are some similarities with Marios list.
Hi Frank
You had 27,28,49 in your Strongly Eliminated list,
and
06,14,40 in your Eliminated list.
i.e.Numbers: 02,06,27,28,40,49 BB14
Were drawn in Draw: 1420
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 08-04-2009 01:22 AM
(08-03-2009 11:02 PM)Len Wrote:(07-31-2009 07:28 PM)Frank Wrote:(07-31-2009 06:42 AM)mario Wrote: For draw 1420:
38, 27 is my number elimination, very, very bad;
and 40, 14, 21, 34, 16, 30 are bad;
is my strategy with follow up and bad numbers;
for 1420 there were a lot of eliminated numbers in my system so I had to split them into 2 lists:-
Strongly Eliminated... 9 18 20 21 27 28 32 36 49
and Eliminated...1 3 4 5 6 13 14 16 17 22 24 25 26 29 35 39 40 41 43 45
I'm hoping that the first list has no hits in 1420 and ideally none of the ones in the second list either.
There are some similarities with Marios list.
Hi Frank
You had 27,28,49 in your Strongly Eliminated list,
and
06,14,40 in your Eliminated list.
i.e.Numbers: 02,06,27,28,40,49 BB14
Were drawn in Draw: 1420
Thanks Len, I had noticed that. Having had an inquest into what happenned, I had based my lists on the assumption that 10 specific values of skip would continue their good run of repeats into draw 1420. What actually happenned was that seven of the 10 skips failed to repeat to 1420 whilst the other 3 did. I lost the compound 50/50 bets 7 to 3 .
This had the effect of switching the eliminated lists over to bankers lists and hence the result we got. Theres 2 ways to look at this system. You either want the majority of the 10 skips to continue as before so the elimination list is correct, or you want the majority of them to fail to repeat so that the list becomes a banker list . That way you could hedge your bets and bet on both lists (the bankers and the eliminated ) . The reality is that more often, half the skips continue their run and half dont, so you get a mixture of hits and misses in the two lists. However so far when the system has failed it has done so spectacularly so that the elimination lists became bankers, so is still a useful system albeit for the wrong reasons.
RE: Number elimination - Len - 08-04-2009 05:04 AM
Hi Frank
Did you see ido's thread
http://lottopost.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=470
That was a brilliant selection and did excellent!