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RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-13-2009 12:38 AM
These are the numbers eliminated from my predictions for draw 1415.
1 4 5 6 8 10 11 12 17 18 21 24 26 28 30 32 33 34 36 40 41 43 45 46 49
RE: Number elimination - mario - 07-13-2009 04:20 AM
(07-13-2009 12:38 AM)Frank Wrote: These are the numbers eliminated from my predictions for draw 1415.
1 4 5 6 8 10 11 12 17 18 21 24 26 28 30 32 33 34 36 40 41 43 45 46 49
Very interesting!
I heard about an elimination method from a friend with skips. If the last skip is >=7 and the last draw will form a new skip with the same value, then that no can be eliminate.
Ex:
1300-1307-1313 form skips 7 (1307-1300) and 6 (1313-1307) but the no with that skips doesn't appear in 1313 it will not appear in 1314 because it will form a skip=7 like preceding skip. It seems that happen for skip>=7. It's an ideea of a friend.
But what do you understand with non-adjacent skips? You forms its with summ of 2 or 3 adjacent skips? It seems very interesting!
Why 86 draws ago the skips don't appear enought in the last 12 draws?
Which is that skips?
I've made a prgramm for skips and it find along a chart of all skips a similar situation in the history and keep the follow skip for comparation.
Ex: if the last skips is 1-2-4, I search in the chart all 1-2-4 situations and keep the 4th skip because the situation can be repeated for the next draw. Or can't be repeated.
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-13-2009 09:27 AM
(07-13-2009 04:20 AM)mario Wrote: But what do you understand with non-adjacent skips? You forms its with summ of 2 or 3 adjacent skips? It seems very interesting!
Why 86 draws ago the skips don't appear enought in the last 12 draws?
Which is that skips?
Hi mario, A draw repeating from long ago (with any ofthe six main numbers) will have had those numbers also repeating from other draws with lesser skip values. For example number 28 repeated to draw 1414 from 86 draws before (non adjacent skip of 86) , but 28 will have appeared many times in between with adjacent skip values which will add up to 86.
In this particular example we are only looking at skips from 86 draws ago to ALL the recent draws to look for repeats from 86 draws ago. The image attached shows any repeated numbers from 86 draws before.. I'm looking for 2 things,
1. repeats to recent draws especially the last 2 draws
2. many repeats in general to the last 12 draws .
Thus establishing trend which may continue to the next draw in the future. The image shows that despite there being some repeats to the last 2 draws, there are few other repeats to other draws in the last 12, so this does not satisfy my criterion of a good skip value to use for predicting the NEXT draw.
Now take a look at skips from 282 draws ago (next image).
This satisfies BOTH crieria and gives me reason to suggest this is a trend which may continue to the next draw hence I use this skip value and note down the 6 actual balls in the result from 282 draws ago (draw 1133) which might repeat to draw 1415.
I also use other skip values equally as interesting to create a shortlist of probable repeats to the next draw, taking the associated results into my shorlist. I'm currently using the 6 best examples of good skip values (found by the above process) . I also to note the absences of any specific balls in this excercise. This is the elimination list I got above..
RE: Number elimination - mario - 07-15-2009 01:57 PM
Thank's very, very much for your wonderful explanations!
I think that this situations must see in the draws history if its give you good numbers!
I can post a chart with adjacent equal skips if I would have a file with uk lotto for elimination numbers. And some conclusions for your metod follow up.
Have you a file with draws?
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-17-2009 10:01 PM
(07-15-2009 01:57 PM)mario Wrote: Thank's very, very much for your wonderful explanations!
I think that this situations must see in the draws history if its give you good numbers!
I can post a chart with adjacent equal skips if I would have a file with uk lotto for elimination numbers. And some conclusions for your metod follow up.
Have you a file with draws?
Hi Mario, I'm not quite sure what you are asking for, is it a list of Lotto results ? If so I attach a list here.
Here is my list of eliminated numbers for 1416 4,8,10,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,20,22,32,34,35,39,41,43,45,47
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-20-2009 08:27 PM
(07-17-2009 10:01 PM)Frank Wrote: Here is my list of eliminated numbers for 1416 4,8,10,11,12,15,16,17,18,19,20,22,32,34,35,39,41,43,45,47
Well, in that list, only 39 and 41 was a main ball in draw 1416, by chance on average there would have been 2.5 main balls in the list, so it is a step in the right direction, but not good enough, there should be zero.
For 1417, I'm suggesting that maybe 1,2,5,6,7,8,11,12,14,17,20,23,26,32,33,34,35,39,42,43,44,45 wont appear .
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-24-2009 08:28 PM
Still plodding in with this, if you read the repeat analysis thread, you'll know where these came from , but using 8 skip values to create an elimination list.
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RE: Number elimination - Len - 07-26-2009 04:06 PM
(07-24-2009 08:28 PM)Frank Wrote: Still plodding in with this, if you read the repeat analysis thread, you'll know where these came from , but using 8 skip values to create an elimination list.
2 4 12 15 16 17 21 22 23 26 30 32 33 35 39 40 43
Hi Frank
Your list had five numbers in draw:1418
08,17,30,32,38,40, BB04
RE: Number elimination - Frank - 07-26-2009 09:31 PM
(07-26-2009 04:06 PM)Len Wrote:(07-24-2009 08:28 PM)Frank Wrote: Still plodding in with this, if you read the repeat analysis thread, you'll know where these came from , but using 8 skip values to create an elimination list.
2 4 12 15 16 17 21 22 23 26 30 32 33 35 39 40 43
Hi Frank
Your list had five numbers in draw:1418
08,17,30,32,38,40, BB04
Yes I know, and of course it shouldn't have had any if it had been any good.
It stems from the skip values I used, working on the hope that they would repeat again, didn't come to pass for the whole list. Only skips of 1070 and 961 actually did repeat to draw 1418 - none of the others, including the 20 skip phenomenon actually did. This had the opposite effect, i.e my elimination list became the 'bankers list' instead
......................................Draw No. ....skip..... Results predicted
next draw 1418 Predicted by 1398...... 20...... 1 5 9 27 42 45
next draw 1418 Predicted by 164...... 1254...... 7 19 36 44 45 47
next draw 1418 Predicted by 596...... 822...... 1 6 13 18 20 49
next draw 1418 Predicted by 348...... 1070...... 3 8 11 25 46 47
next draw 1418 Predicted by 312...... 1106...... 9 10 18 25 28 48
In the example I quoted earlier there were 5 skip values each with a 50:50 chance of repeating to draw 1418. I lost the 50:50 bet on four of those skips - and won on only the skip vaue of 1070. Thats why my elimination list became a bankers list.
RE: Number elimination - ido - 07-27-2009 12:19 AM
(07-26-2009 09:31 PM)Frank Wrote: In the example I quoted earlier there were 5 skip values each with a 50:50 chance of repeating to draw 1418. I lost the 50:50 bet on four of those skips - and won on only the skip vaue of 1070. Thats why my elimination list became a bankers list.
Hi,Frank,not too sure if i understand well your theory ,but it seem to me you'l have very interesting results if make 2 separate ,indipendent lists of eliminated even numbers& eliminated odd numbers- if do like this you'l notice periodicaly(and short intervals from period to period) near full cover - second me have often Pick's3 won is not bad...
...or punt separately the odds &the evens of the both :elimination list and bankers list.